tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2902481148614123622.post1050040135721686488..comments2023-08-05T10:45:44.491-04:00Comments on Discovering<br><u> The Lost Symbol</u>™: <br>The Blog: Clue #9: Albrecht DurerMark Koltko-Riverahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11173090767545559729noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2902481148614123622.post-33933100459765055782011-01-31T18:45:16.023-05:002011-01-31T18:45:16.023-05:00whats the deal with 34 on row, and replaced 5 and ...whats the deal with 34 on row, and replaced 5 and 9.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2902481148614123622.post-71273152632840361522010-11-23T16:28:06.899-05:002010-11-23T16:28:06.899-05:00The thing about Masonry is that its origins are as...The thing about Masonry is that its origins are as ancient as the building trades. What we perceive as modern Masonry is just the current from of a tradition that goes back thousands of years. We have records of guilds of various kinds going well back into the Middle Ages, and we know that groups like the Pythagoreans held their secrets closely guarded in ancient times. To say that Durer was a Mason would not be strictly true in the sense that he was a member of a society that still exists in that ancient form today, but he could well have been a member of a group that held closely guarded geometrical secrets and used the tools of their trade as part of a system of symbols familiar to members of the group.bhoguenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2902481148614123622.post-9889146444562109022010-05-10T09:30:21.542-04:002010-05-10T09:30:21.542-04:00Very interesting, thanks for posting this. I just...Very interesting, thanks for posting this. I just had a question: I've always heard the (three) cardinal virtues listed as Faith, Hope and Charity. Are the four you listed specific to the Masons or have a I been mis-informed all this time?Stephannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2902481148614123622.post-79643118565591508432010-02-01T00:37:25.749-05:002010-02-01T00:37:25.749-05:00You might review this ethcing by Durer, as he illu...You might review this ethcing by Durer, as he illustrates what might be an "operative" lodge:<br /><br />http://www.freemasoncollection.com/3-MASONIC-INITIATION/lodge-xvi-century-albrecht-durer-masonic-lodge.phpAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2902481148614123622.post-5474451034759493712009-12-10T09:19:43.941-05:002009-12-10T09:19:43.941-05:00The most important part in this piece of art is th...The most important part in this piece of art is the square at the right top... The lost symbol itself is there...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2902481148614123622.post-304343486290452312009-10-08T12:11:44.007-04:002009-10-08T12:11:44.007-04:00Did you see that the Minneapolis Institute of Arts...Did you see that the Minneapolis Institute of Arts has copy of Dürer's Melencholia I? They put the print on view this week. Details of the print were made into iPhone wallpaper!! This is a detail Dürer's magic square http://www.flickr.com/photos/minneapolisinstituteofarts/3990262431/in/photostream This is NOT a spoiler!Amandahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17562216415877635296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2902481148614123622.post-58639254479008438692009-10-06T15:16:57.502-04:002009-10-06T15:16:57.502-04:00Thanks a handfull manThanks a handfull manAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2902481148614123622.post-86765049460332420842009-09-17T02:54:22.002-04:002009-09-17T02:54:22.002-04:00Anonymous: I can see your point. However, both my ...Anonymous: I can see your point. However, both my objective and my line of reasoning are rather different than I think you perceive them to be. <br /><br />First: It is true that, as Henry Wilson Coil put it, the symbolism of Durer's <i>Melencolia I</i> "seems quite as appropriate to Alchemy, Hermeticism, Rosicrucianism, or [yet] unclassified symbology" as it does to Freemasonry (<i>Coil's Masonic Encyclopedia</i>, 1996, s.v. "Durer, Albrecht"). However, there is more than a little reason to believe that modern Freemasonry was <i><b>born</b></i> precisely within a matrix composed of men interested in Alchemy, Hermeticism, and Rosicrucianism; see, for example, Tobias Churton, <i>The Magus of Freemasonry</i> (his biography of Elias Ashmole, published in the UK under the title <i>Magus</i>), and Alain Bauer's recent book, <i>Isaac Newton's Freemasonry</i>. Thus, the fact that Durer chose to use such symbols actually raises the profile of the question of his potential Freemasonry. <br /><br />Second: Yes indeed, dogs and scales have been used as symbols from Roman times. However, the stonemason's compasses have <i>not</i> been so used from Roman times, to the best of my knowledge. It is <i>in the context of the compasses</i>, one of a very small number of quite central symbols within Freemasonry, that I make my argument to begin with.<br /><br />Third: As it happens, no one (including you) has made the claim that Durer was a member of the Knights of Columbus. (Indeed, this would be a somewhat psychotic claim to start with, since the Knights of Columbus have a well-documented founding date in 1882, over three centuries after Durer's death.) <i><b>In the context of the rumors that seem to have existed for centuries</b></i> to the effect that Durer was a proto-Mason, I was addressing the issue, would it even be plausible to think Durer <i>might</i> have been a Mason? <br /><br />Incidentally, I am going to enable e-mail notification to me of posts to this blog, so that I respond to comments in a more timely way. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.Mark Koltko-Riverahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11173090767545559729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2902481148614123622.post-35211244346236179542009-09-12T10:49:33.205-04:002009-09-12T10:49:33.205-04:00Sounds dodgy to me.
Isn't it more likely that...Sounds dodgy to me.<br /><br />Isn't it more likely that Freemasonry adopted symbols that were already used in European culture and that therefore appear in art predating the founding of Masonry? Dogs and scales are symbols used by the ancient Romans for various purposes. Does that mean Freemasonry was around before the birth of Christ?<br /><br />By this logic, you could also argue that since there's a sword in Durer's engraving of the Horsemen of the Apocalypse and a sword in the emblem of the Knights of Columbus, he was probably also a member of that organization.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2902481148614123622.post-80807806524132701072009-07-07T20:54:33.742-04:002009-07-07T20:54:33.742-04:00Best of luck to you, R. Douglas.Best of luck to you, R. Douglas.Mark Koltko-Riverahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11173090767545559729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2902481148614123622.post-73801085662768149512009-07-06T23:20:32.800-04:002009-07-06T23:20:32.800-04:00Dürer has already been featured in my novel Solomo...Dürer has already been featured in my novel Solomon's Key: The CODIS Project by R. Douglas Weber. The Masonic and Hermetic clues in his various works lead the protagonists or aid them in deciphering the Calvicula Salomonis The Greater Key of Solomon the King. <br />In Melancholia there is also a magick square, and my novel details hidden messages in Dürer’s art relating to dates and secrets revealed in many of his other works. An infamous Black Quasi-Masonic Lodge, the Ordo Templi Orientis, and the Vatican face off in a race against time to discover the true secret the paintings and the Key of Solomon contain.<br />Go to thesolomon-key.com for further information.<br />Thank you R Douglas WeberR Douglas Weberhttp://www.thesolomon-key.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2902481148614123622.post-24983232132442619872009-06-30T23:00:06.371-04:002009-06-30T23:00:06.371-04:00M.M.E., thank you for your kind words. Durer is a ...M.M.E., thank you for your kind words. Durer is a fascinating personage -- a larger-than-life, genius-plus-level talented figure. You have a great inspiration for your vocation.Mark Koltko-Riverahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11173090767545559729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2902481148614123622.post-26778870785602539022009-06-30T12:13:27.800-04:002009-06-30T12:13:27.800-04:00This is a great post! I'm so happy someone el...This is a great post! I'm so happy someone else finds Durer as fascinating as I do. He's one of the reasons I became an illustrator in the first place!M.M.E.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09810117749263731836noreply@blogger.com